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Dave - 11/25/2021

First, if code you post requires external files to run, provide the files please.

Second, you should at least give a short overview what the code is supposed to do in the first place. That isn't obvious, especially not for code that does not work.

The only thing I can say without being actually able to run the script and examine things more closely is that

<trial choice>
/ stimulustimes = [1=clearscreen; 10=start3; 10=start2; 10=start]
/ ontrialbegin = [values.iteration = 0; picture.hoop.width = 100%]
/ inputdevice = mouseover
/ validresponse = (start, start2, start3)
/ recorddata = true
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start) trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start2) trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start3) trial.TL_high]
</trial>

is wrong and ought to read

<trial choice>
/ stimulustimes = [1=clearscreen; 10=start3; 10=start2; 10=start]
/ ontrialbegin = [values.iteration = 0; picture.hoop.width = 100%]
/ inputdevice = mouseover
/ validresponse = (start, start2, start3)
/ recorddata = true
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start") trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start2") trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start3") trial.TL_high]
</trial>
   

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peter - 11/25/2021

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Dave - 11/25/2021

First, if code you post requires external files to run, provide the files please.

Second, you should at least give a short overview what the code is supposed to do in the first place. That isn't obvious, especially not for code that does not work.

The only thing I can say without being actually able to run the script and examine things more closely is that

<trial choice>
/ stimulustimes = [1=clearscreen; 10=start3; 10=start2; 10=start]
/ ontrialbegin = [values.iteration = 0; picture.hoop.width = 100%]
/ inputdevice = mouseover
/ validresponse = (start, start2, start3)
/ recorddata = true
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start) trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start2) trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start3) trial.TL_high]
</trial>

is wrong and ought to read

<trial choice>
/ stimulustimes = [1=clearscreen; 10=start3; 10=start2; 10=start]
/ ontrialbegin = [values.iteration = 0; picture.hoop.width = 100%]
/ inputdevice = mouseover
/ validresponse = (start, start2, start3)
/ recorddata = true
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start") trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start2") trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start3") trial.TL_high]
</trial>
   

Yes of course it should what was I thinking. 

The script is supposed to work thus:
In  trial.search i use the mouse to move the board around (under the view hole) until the trial ends after a number of iterations. That works fine.
Then trail.choice begins. In trial.choice the curser/mouse starts the trial on a given shape object (start start2 start3), this should then trigger the start of a new trial, that works now but only if the mouse/cursor is moving at the start of trial.choice

Is it possible to get the mouse/curser to trigger the shape object (start start2 start3) even if the mouse is not moving?

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Dave - 11/25/2021

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peter - 11/25/2021

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Dave - 11/25/2021

First, if code you post requires external files to run, provide the files please.

Second, you should at least give a short overview what the code is supposed to do in the first place. That isn't obvious, especially not for code that does not work.

The only thing I can say without being actually able to run the script and examine things more closely is that

<trial choice>
/ stimulustimes = [1=clearscreen; 10=start3; 10=start2; 10=start]
/ ontrialbegin = [values.iteration = 0; picture.hoop.width = 100%]
/ inputdevice = mouseover
/ validresponse = (start, start2, start3)
/ recorddata = true
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start) trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start2) trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start3) trial.TL_high]
</trial>

is wrong and ought to read

<trial choice>
/ stimulustimes = [1=clearscreen; 10=start3; 10=start2; 10=start]
/ ontrialbegin = [values.iteration = 0; picture.hoop.width = 100%]
/ inputdevice = mouseover
/ validresponse = (start, start2, start3)
/ recorddata = true
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start") trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start2") trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start3") trial.TL_high]
</trial>
   

Yes of course it should what was I thinking. 

The script is supposed to work thus:
In  trial.search i use the mouse to move the board around (under the view hole) until the trial ends after a number of iterations. That works fine.
Then trail.choice begins. In trial.choice the curser/mouse starts the trial on a given shape object (start start2 start3), this should then trigger the start of a new trial, that works now but only if the mouse/cursor is moving at the start of trial.choice

Is it possible to get the mouse/curser to trigger the shape object (start start2 start3) even if the mouse is not moving?

> In trial.choice the curser/mouse starts the trial on a given shape object (start start2 start3)

Not clear to me for what trial choice is needed at all then.

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peter - 11/25/2021

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Dave - 11/25/2021

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peter - 11/25/2021

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Dave - 11/25/2021

First, if code you post requires external files to run, provide the files please.

Second, you should at least give a short overview what the code is supposed to do in the first place. That isn't obvious, especially not for code that does not work.

The only thing I can say without being actually able to run the script and examine things more closely is that

<trial choice>
/ stimulustimes = [1=clearscreen; 10=start3; 10=start2; 10=start]
/ ontrialbegin = [values.iteration = 0; picture.hoop.width = 100%]
/ inputdevice = mouseover
/ validresponse = (start, start2, start3)
/ recorddata = true
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start) trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start2) trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start3) trial.TL_high]
</trial>

is wrong and ought to read

<trial choice>
/ stimulustimes = [1=clearscreen; 10=start3; 10=start2; 10=start]
/ ontrialbegin = [values.iteration = 0; picture.hoop.width = 100%]
/ inputdevice = mouseover
/ validresponse = (start, start2, start3)
/ recorddata = true
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start") trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start2") trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start3") trial.TL_high]
</trial>
   

Yes of course it should what was I thinking. 

The script is supposed to work thus:
In  trial.search i use the mouse to move the board around (under the view hole) until the trial ends after a number of iterations. That works fine.
Then trail.choice begins. In trial.choice the curser/mouse starts the trial on a given shape object (start start2 start3), this should then trigger the start of a new trial, that works now but only if the mouse/cursor is moving at the start of trial.choice

Is it possible to get the mouse/curser to trigger the shape object (start start2 start3) even if the mouse is not moving?

> In trial.choice the curser/mouse starts the trial on a given shape object (start start2 start3)

Not clear to me for what trial choice is needed at all then.

basically I need the to branch to three different trials based on where the curser is at the end of  trial.choice. Only one was branch (trial.TL_high) was included on the demmo to cut down one script size I sent you. 

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Dave - 11/25/2021

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peter - 11/25/2021

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Dave - 11/25/2021

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peter - 11/25/2021

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Dave - 11/25/2021

First, if code you post requires external files to run, provide the files please.

Second, you should at least give a short overview what the code is supposed to do in the first place. That isn't obvious, especially not for code that does not work.

The only thing I can say without being actually able to run the script and examine things more closely is that

<trial choice>
/ stimulustimes = [1=clearscreen; 10=start3; 10=start2; 10=start]
/ ontrialbegin = [values.iteration = 0; picture.hoop.width = 100%]
/ inputdevice = mouseover
/ validresponse = (start, start2, start3)
/ recorddata = true
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start) trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start2) trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start3) trial.TL_high]
</trial>

is wrong and ought to read

<trial choice>
/ stimulustimes = [1=clearscreen; 10=start3; 10=start2; 10=start]
/ ontrialbegin = [values.iteration = 0; picture.hoop.width = 100%]
/ inputdevice = mouseover
/ validresponse = (start, start2, start3)
/ recorddata = true
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start") trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start2") trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start3") trial.TL_high]
</trial>
   

Yes of course it should what was I thinking. 

The script is supposed to work thus:
In  trial.search i use the mouse to move the board around (under the view hole) until the trial ends after a number of iterations. That works fine.
Then trail.choice begins. In trial.choice the curser/mouse starts the trial on a given shape object (start start2 start3), this should then trigger the start of a new trial, that works now but only if the mouse/cursor is moving at the start of trial.choice

Is it possible to get the mouse/curser to trigger the shape object (start start2 start3) even if the mouse is not moving?

> In trial.choice the curser/mouse starts the trial on a given shape object (start start2 start3)

Not clear to me for what trial choice is needed at all then.

basically I need the to branch to three different trials based on where the curser is at the end of  trial.choice. Only one was branch (trial.TL_high) was included on the demmo to cut down one script size I sent you. 

> basically I need the to branch to three different trials based on where the curser is at the end of trial.choice.

No, you just -- one post prior -- said that the cursor is on a given shape object at the *start* (not end) of trial choice. So, again, why is trial.choice needed? You know the cursor position at the end of your X iterations of trial.search, so why don't you /branch from trial.search to wherever you need to go based on the cursor position?

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peter - 11/25/2021

sorry yes i see my error. But end or start, trial.choice only does one thing. it takes the position of the mouse and activates a circle. 
I went for this approach because the cursor positions that we intend to use are complicated (many concentric circles, more than in the example I sent) using cursor position (x and y) would require uploading a large matrix file representing the image that we want map onto . Can inquisist do that?

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Dave - 11/25/2021

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peter - 11/25/2021

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Dave - 11/25/2021

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peter - 11/25/2021

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Dave - 11/25/2021

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peter - 11/25/2021

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Dave - 11/25/2021

First, if code you post requires external files to run, provide the files please.

Second, you should at least give a short overview what the code is supposed to do in the first place. That isn't obvious, especially not for code that does not work.

The only thing I can say without being actually able to run the script and examine things more closely is that

<trial choice>
/ stimulustimes = [1=clearscreen; 10=start3; 10=start2; 10=start]
/ ontrialbegin = [values.iteration = 0; picture.hoop.width = 100%]
/ inputdevice = mouseover
/ validresponse = (start, start2, start3)
/ recorddata = true
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start) trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start2) trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start3) trial.TL_high]
</trial>

is wrong and ought to read

<trial choice>
/ stimulustimes = [1=clearscreen; 10=start3; 10=start2; 10=start]
/ ontrialbegin = [values.iteration = 0; picture.hoop.width = 100%]
/ inputdevice = mouseover
/ validresponse = (start, start2, start3)
/ recorddata = true
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start") trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start2") trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start3") trial.TL_high]
</trial>
   

Yes of course it should what was I thinking. 

The script is supposed to work thus:
In  trial.search i use the mouse to move the board around (under the view hole) until the trial ends after a number of iterations. That works fine.
Then trail.choice begins. In trial.choice the curser/mouse starts the trial on a given shape object (start start2 start3), this should then trigger the start of a new trial, that works now but only if the mouse/cursor is moving at the start of trial.choice

Is it possible to get the mouse/curser to trigger the shape object (start start2 start3) even if the mouse is not moving?

> In trial.choice the curser/mouse starts the trial on a given shape object (start start2 start3)

Not clear to me for what trial choice is needed at all then.

basically I need the to branch to three different trials based on where the curser is at the end of  trial.choice. Only one was branch (trial.TL_high) was included on the demmo to cut down one script size I sent you. 

> basically I need the to branch to three different trials based on where the curser is at the end of trial.choice.

No, you just -- one post prior -- said that the cursor is on a given shape object at the *start* (not end) of trial choice. So, again, why is trial.choice needed? You know the cursor position at the end of your X iterations of trial.search, so why don't you /branch from trial.search to wherever you need to go based on the cursor position?

sorry yes i see my error. But end or start, trial.choice only does one thing. it takes the position of the mouse and activates a circle. 
I went for this approach because the cursor positions that we intend to use are complicated (many concentric circles, more than in the example I sent) using cursor position (x and y) would require uploading a large matrix file representing the image that we want map onto . Can inquisist do that?

Why does that require a large matrix? Seems to me you can simply calculate euclidean distance from screen center and do whatever you need to do based on that.

<defaults>
/ inputdevice = mouse
/ screencolor = black
/ fontstyle = ("Verdana", 2.50%, true)
/ txcolor = white
/ txbgcolor = black
</defaults>

<values>
/ x = 0px
/ y = 0px
/ centerx = (display.canvaswidth)/2
/ centery = (display.canvasheight)/2
/ mirrorx = false // mirror horizontally
/ mirrory = false// mirror vertically
</values>

<expressions>
/ x = 1px*abs(values.x-(values.mirrorx*display.canvaswidth))
/ y = 1px*abs(values.y-(values.mirrory*display.canvasheight))
/ distance = sqrt((trial.move.responsex - values.centerx) * (trial.move.responsex - values.centerx) + (trial.move.responsey - values.centery) * (trial.move.responsey - values.centery))
</expressions>

<expt>
/ blocks = [1=example]
</expt>

<block example>
/ trials = [1=start]
</block>

<trial start>
/ stimulusframes = [1=clickhere]
/ validresponse = (lbuttondown)
/ ontrialend = [values.x=trial.start.responsex; values.y=trial.start.responsey]
/ branch = [trial.move]
/ recorddata = false
</trial>

<shape center>
/ shape = rectangle
/ size = (5px, 5px)
/ position = (50%, 50%)
/ erase = false
/ color = magenta
</shape>

<trial move>
/ ontrialend = [values.x=trial.move.responsex;
values.y=trial.move.responsey;
    if (expressions.distance <= shape.33pct.heightpx/2) {
        shape.33pct.color = red;
        shape.66pct.color = black;
        shape.99pct.color = black;
    } else if (expressions.distance >= shape.66pct.heightpx/2) {
        shape.33pct.color = red;
        shape.66pct.color = green;
        shape.99pct.color = blue;
    } else {
        shape.33pct.color = red;
        shape.66pct.color = green;
        shape.99pct.color = black;
    };
]
/ stimulusframes = [1=clearscreen, 99pct, 66pct, 33pct, center, coordinates]
/ validresponse = (mousemove, lbuttondown, rbuttondown)
/ numframes = 1
/ branch = [if (trial.move.response=="lbuttondown") {
return trial.end;
} else if (trial.move.response == "rbuttondown") {
return trial.pause;
} else if (trial.move.response == "mousemove") {
trial.move;
};
]
/ recorddata = false
</trial>

<shape 33pct>
/ shape = circle
/ color = black
/ height = 33%
/ erase = false
</shape>

<shape 66pct>
/ shape = circle
/ color = black
/ height = 66%
/ erase = false
</shape>

<shape 99pct>
/ shape = circle
/ color = black
/ height = 99%
/ erase = false
</shape>

<trial pause>
/ stimulusframes = [1=coordinates]
/ validresponse = (mousemove, lbuttondown)
/ numframes = 1
/ ontrialend = [values.x=trial.pause.responsex; values.y=trial.pause.responsey]
/ branch = [if (trial.pause.response=="lbuttondown") {
return trial.move;
} else {
return trial.pause;
};
]
/ recorddata = false
</trial>

<trial end>
/ stimulusframes = [1=clearscreen, goodbye]
/ validresponse = (lbuttondown)
/ recorddata = true
</trial>

<shape dot>
/ shape = circle
/ width = 4%
/ color = (blue)
/ erase = false
/ hposition = expressions.x
/ vposition = expressions.y
</shape>

<text coordinates>
/ items = ("x=<%values.x%> | y=<%values.y%> | distance=<%expressions.distance%>")
/ position = (50%, 5%)
/ size = (40%, 4%)
/ vjustify = center
/ erase = false
</text>

<text clickhere>
/ items = ("Click to start.")
</text>

<text goodbye>
/ items = ("Goodbye!")
</text>

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peter - 11/25/2021

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Dave - 11/25/2021

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peter - 11/25/2021

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Dave - 11/25/2021

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peter - 11/25/2021

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Dave - 11/25/2021

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peter - 11/25/2021

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Dave - 11/25/2021

First, if code you post requires external files to run, provide the files please.

Second, you should at least give a short overview what the code is supposed to do in the first place. That isn't obvious, especially not for code that does not work.

The only thing I can say without being actually able to run the script and examine things more closely is that

<trial choice>
/ stimulustimes = [1=clearscreen; 10=start3; 10=start2; 10=start]
/ ontrialbegin = [values.iteration = 0; picture.hoop.width = 100%]
/ inputdevice = mouseover
/ validresponse = (start, start2, start3)
/ recorddata = true
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start) trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start2) trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == start3) trial.TL_high]
</trial>

is wrong and ought to read

<trial choice>
/ stimulustimes = [1=clearscreen; 10=start3; 10=start2; 10=start]
/ ontrialbegin = [values.iteration = 0; picture.hoop.width = 100%]
/ inputdevice = mouseover
/ validresponse = (start, start2, start3)
/ recorddata = true
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start") trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start2") trial.TL_high]
/ branch = [if (trial.choice.response == "start3") trial.TL_high]
</trial>
   

Yes of course it should what was I thinking. 

The script is supposed to work thus:
In  trial.search i use the mouse to move the board around (under the view hole) until the trial ends after a number of iterations. That works fine.
Then trail.choice begins. In trial.choice the curser/mouse starts the trial on a given shape object (start start2 start3), this should then trigger the start of a new trial, that works now but only if the mouse/cursor is moving at the start of trial.choice

Is it possible to get the mouse/curser to trigger the shape object (start start2 start3) even if the mouse is not moving?

> In trial.choice the curser/mouse starts the trial on a given shape object (start start2 start3)

Not clear to me for what trial choice is needed at all then.

basically I need the to branch to three different trials based on where the curser is at the end of  trial.choice. Only one was branch (trial.TL_high) was included on the demmo to cut down one script size I sent you. 

> basically I need the to branch to three different trials based on where the curser is at the end of trial.choice.

No, you just -- one post prior -- said that the cursor is on a given shape object at the *start* (not end) of trial choice. So, again, why is trial.choice needed? You know the cursor position at the end of your X iterations of trial.search, so why don't you /branch from trial.search to wherever you need to go based on the cursor position?

sorry yes i see my error. But end or start, trial.choice only does one thing. it takes the position of the mouse and activates a circle. 
I went for this approach because the cursor positions that we intend to use are complicated (many concentric circles, more than in the example I sent) using cursor position (x and y) would require uploading a large matrix file representing the image that we want map onto . Can inquisist do that?

Why does that require a large matrix? Seems to me you can simply calculate euclidean distance from screen center and do whatever you need to do based on that.

<defaults>
/ inputdevice = mouse
/ screencolor = black
/ fontstyle = ("Verdana", 2.50%, true)
/ txcolor = white
/ txbgcolor = black
</defaults>

<values>
/ x = 0px
/ y = 0px
/ centerx = (display.canvaswidth)/2
/ centery = (display.canvasheight)/2
/ mirrorx = false // mirror horizontally
/ mirrory = false// mirror vertically
</values>

<expressions>
/ x = 1px*abs(values.x-(values.mirrorx*display.canvaswidth))
/ y = 1px*abs(values.y-(values.mirrory*display.canvasheight))
/ distance = sqrt((trial.move.responsex - values.centerx) * (trial.move.responsex - values.centerx) + (trial.move.responsey - values.centery) * (trial.move.responsey - values.centery))
</expressions>

<expt>
/ blocks = [1=example]
</expt>

<block example>
/ trials = [1=start]
</block>

<trial start>
/ stimulusframes = [1=clickhere]
/ validresponse = (lbuttondown)
/ ontrialend = [values.x=trial.start.responsex; values.y=trial.start.responsey]
/ branch = [trial.move]
/ recorddata = false
</trial>

<shape center>
/ shape = rectangle
/ size = (5px, 5px)
/ position = (50%, 50%)
/ erase = false
/ color = magenta
</shape>

<trial move>
/ ontrialend = [values.x=trial.move.responsex;
values.y=trial.move.responsey;
    if (expressions.distance <= shape.33pct.heightpx/2) {
        shape.33pct.color = red;
        shape.66pct.color = black;
        shape.99pct.color = black;
    } else if (expressions.distance >= shape.66pct.heightpx/2) {
        shape.33pct.color = red;
        shape.66pct.color = green;
        shape.99pct.color = blue;
    } else {
        shape.33pct.color = red;
        shape.66pct.color = green;
        shape.99pct.color = black;
    };
]
/ stimulusframes = [1=clearscreen, 99pct, 66pct, 33pct, center, coordinates]
/ validresponse = (mousemove, lbuttondown, rbuttondown)
/ numframes = 1
/ branch = [if (trial.move.response=="lbuttondown") {
return trial.end;
} else if (trial.move.response == "rbuttondown") {
return trial.pause;
} else if (trial.move.response == "mousemove") {
trial.move;
};
]
/ recorddata = false
</trial>

<shape 33pct>
/ shape = circle
/ color = black
/ height = 33%
/ erase = false
</shape>

<shape 66pct>
/ shape = circle
/ color = black
/ height = 66%
/ erase = false
</shape>

<shape 99pct>
/ shape = circle
/ color = black
/ height = 99%
/ erase = false
</shape>

<trial pause>
/ stimulusframes = [1=coordinates]
/ validresponse = (mousemove, lbuttondown)
/ numframes = 1
/ ontrialend = [values.x=trial.pause.responsex; values.y=trial.pause.responsey]
/ branch = [if (trial.pause.response=="lbuttondown") {
return trial.move;
} else {
return trial.pause;
};
]
/ recorddata = false
</trial>

<trial end>
/ stimulusframes = [1=clearscreen, goodbye]
/ validresponse = (lbuttondown)
/ recorddata = true
</trial>

<shape dot>
/ shape = circle
/ width = 4%
/ color = (blue)
/ erase = false
/ hposition = expressions.x
/ vposition = expressions.y
</shape>

<text coordinates>
/ items = ("x=<%values.x%> | y=<%values.y%> | distance=<%expressions.distance%>")
/ position = (50%, 5%)
/ size = (40%, 4%)
/ vjustify = center
/ erase = false
</text>

<text clickhere>
/ items = ("Click to start.")
</text>

<text goodbye>
/ items = ("Goodbye!")
</text>

good point, i will look at your code and get my head around it
big thanks for all your help