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dproost - 12/7/2021

Dear all
In my experiment, I want to provide participants a textbox in which they have to fill in all words they remember from previously seen word lists. The total duration they get to do this task, is 5 minutes. Everything works fine, apart from the fact that participants shouldn't be allowed to press 'continue' before the 5 minutes are over. In a similar topic on the forum, I found that you could make use of 'isvalidresponse' to make sure participants can't advance. However, this only seems to work for Inquisit 5 and not for version 6. Or am I missing something else? Thank you in advance for your help! Here, I provide some code for clarification:

<text recallInstructions>
/ items = ("Recall as many of the words from all studied lists as you can.
You can either start each word on a new line, or add spaces or commas in between words. Your remaining time is:
You cannot press the 'continue' button before the 5 minutes are over.")
/ position = (50%, 10%)
/ fontstyle = ("Arial", 3%, true, false, false, false, 5, 1)
/ size = (90%, 10%)
</text>

<openended recall_overallgroup1>
/ stimulusframes = [1 = recallInstructions]
/ pretrialpause = parameters.recallDelay
/ ontrialbegin = [
    values.Recall = "";
    values.countCorrect_neutral = 0;
    values.countCorrect_low = 0;
    values.countCorrect_high = 0;
    values.countCritical_neutral = 0;
    values.countCritical_low = 0;
    values.countCritical_high = 0;
    values.phase = "recall";
]
/ size = (20%, 30%)
/ multiline = true
/ charlimit = 5000
/ position = (50%, 53%)
/ isvalidresponse = [openended.recall_overallgroup1.latency >= 300000]
...
/ timeout = parameters.maxRecallDuration
</openended>

<block recallscreengroup1>
/ preinstructions = (recallPhase)
/ bgstim = (clock.timerrecall)
/ onblockbegin = [
    values.RecallWordEstimate = "";
    values.Recall = "";
    values.nr_otherRecalledWords = "";
    values.countCorrect_neutral = 0;
    values.countCorrect_low = 0;
    values.countCorrect_high = 0;
    values.countCritical_neutral = 0;
    values.countCritical_low = 0;
    values.countCritical_high = 0;
    values.intrusionOther = "";
    values.lure = "";
]
/ trials = [1 = recall_overallgroup1]
/ onblockend = [
    values.nextList = "";
]
</block>

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Dave - 12/7/2021

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dproost - 12/7/2021

Dear all
In my experiment, I want to provide participants a textbox in which they have to fill in all words they remember from previously seen word lists. The total duration they get to do this task, is 5 minutes. Everything works fine, apart from the fact that participants shouldn't be allowed to press 'continue' before the 5 minutes are over. In a similar topic on the forum, I found that you could make use of 'isvalidresponse' to make sure participants can't advance. However, this only seems to work for Inquisit 5 and not for version 6. Or am I missing something else? Thank you in advance for your help! Here, I provide some code for clarification:

<text recallInstructions>
/ items = ("Recall as many of the words from all studied lists as you can.
You can either start each word on a new line, or add spaces or commas in between words. Your remaining time is:
You cannot press the 'continue' button before the 5 minutes are over.")
/ position = (50%, 10%)
/ fontstyle = ("Arial", 3%, true, false, false, false, 5, 1)
/ size = (90%, 10%)
</text>

<openended recall_overallgroup1>
/ stimulusframes = [1 = recallInstructions]
/ pretrialpause = parameters.recallDelay
/ ontrialbegin = [
    values.Recall = "";
    values.countCorrect_neutral = 0;
    values.countCorrect_low = 0;
    values.countCorrect_high = 0;
    values.countCritical_neutral = 0;
    values.countCritical_low = 0;
    values.countCritical_high = 0;
    values.phase = "recall";
]
/ size = (20%, 30%)
/ multiline = true
/ charlimit = 5000
/ position = (50%, 53%)
/ isvalidresponse = [openended.recall_overallgroup1.latency >= 300000]
...
/ timeout = parameters.maxRecallDuration
</openended>

<block recallscreengroup1>
/ preinstructions = (recallPhase)
/ bgstim = (clock.timerrecall)
/ onblockbegin = [
    values.RecallWordEstimate = "";
    values.Recall = "";
    values.nr_otherRecalledWords = "";
    values.countCorrect_neutral = 0;
    values.countCorrect_low = 0;
    values.countCorrect_high = 0;
    values.countCritical_neutral = 0;
    values.countCritical_low = 0;
    values.countCritical_high = 0;
    values.intrusionOther = "";
    values.lure = "";
]
/ trials = [1 = recall_overallgroup1]
/ onblockend = [
    values.nextList = "";
]
</block>

The easy fix is to add /required = true to the <openended> element.

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dproost - 12/8/2021

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Dave - 12/7/2021

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dproost - 12/7/2021

Dear all
In my experiment, I want to provide participants a textbox in which they have to fill in all words they remember from previously seen word lists. The total duration they get to do this task, is 5 minutes. Everything works fine, apart from the fact that participants shouldn't be allowed to press 'continue' before the 5 minutes are over. In a similar topic on the forum, I found that you could make use of 'isvalidresponse' to make sure participants can't advance. However, this only seems to work for Inquisit 5 and not for version 6. Or am I missing something else? Thank you in advance for your help! Here, I provide some code for clarification:

<text recallInstructions>
/ items = ("Recall as many of the words from all studied lists as you can.
You can either start each word on a new line, or add spaces or commas in between words. Your remaining time is:
You cannot press the 'continue' button before the 5 minutes are over.")
/ position = (50%, 10%)
/ fontstyle = ("Arial", 3%, true, false, false, false, 5, 1)
/ size = (90%, 10%)
</text>

<openended recall_overallgroup1>
/ stimulusframes = [1 = recallInstructions]
/ pretrialpause = parameters.recallDelay
/ ontrialbegin = [
    values.Recall = "";
    values.countCorrect_neutral = 0;
    values.countCorrect_low = 0;
    values.countCorrect_high = 0;
    values.countCritical_neutral = 0;
    values.countCritical_low = 0;
    values.countCritical_high = 0;
    values.phase = "recall";
]
/ size = (20%, 30%)
/ multiline = true
/ charlimit = 5000
/ position = (50%, 53%)
/ isvalidresponse = [openended.recall_overallgroup1.latency >= 300000]
...
/ timeout = parameters.maxRecallDuration
</openended>

<block recallscreengroup1>
/ preinstructions = (recallPhase)
/ bgstim = (clock.timerrecall)
/ onblockbegin = [
    values.RecallWordEstimate = "";
    values.Recall = "";
    values.nr_otherRecalledWords = "";
    values.countCorrect_neutral = 0;
    values.countCorrect_low = 0;
    values.countCorrect_high = 0;
    values.countCritical_neutral = 0;
    values.countCritical_low = 0;
    values.countCritical_high = 0;
    values.intrusionOther = "";
    values.lure = "";
]
/ trials = [1 = recall_overallgroup1]
/ onblockend = [
    values.nextList = "";
]
</block>

The easy fix is to add /required = true to the <openended> element.

Thank you for your response, it works now! I still have one additional question. I don't know whether it's because of this little change, but now, our code which we used to be able to count the number of words automatically doesn't seem to work anymore. Could you think of a possible explanation or solution for this problem? Thanks in advance!

This is the code we use to separate each word with a comma and then count the total number of words:

<expressions>
/wordcountEstimate = {
    values.Recall = replaceall(values.Recall, "\", ",");
    values.Recall = replaceall(values.Recall, "|", ",");    
    values.Recall = replaceall(values.Recall, "/", ",");    
    values.Recall = replaceall(values.Recall, ";", ",");    
    values.Recall = replaceall(values.Recall, " ", ",");    
    values.Recall = replaceall(values.Recall, ":", ",");
    values.Recall = replaceall(values.Recall, ".", ",");
    if (computer.platform == "win"){
values.Recall = replaceall(values.Recall, "
", ",");            
    } else if (computer.platform == "mac"){
        values.Recall = replaceall(values.Recall, "
", ",");
    };    
    values.Recall = concat(",", values.Recall);
    expressions.removeConsecutiveCommas;
        
    if (!endswith(values.Recall, ",")){
        values.Recall = concat(values.Recall, ",");    
    };

    values.RecallLength = length(values.Recall);
    values.reducedRecall = replaceall(values.Recall, ",", "");    
    values.RecallWordEstimate= values.RecallLength - length(values.reducedRecall) - 1;
}
/removeConsecutiveCommas = {
    values.Recall = replaceall(values.Recall, ",,", ",");
    if (contains(values.Recall, ",,")){
        expressions.removeConsecutiveCommas;
    };
}
</expressions>    

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dproost - 12/8/2021

Of course, you can find the script in attachment! You'll notice that the code isn't really concise, but I'll hope you can make something out of it. In the extensive part of "openended recall_overallgroup1/2", starting from " / ontrialbegin", we check for all possible right responses (words that occur in the lists). The goal was that the answers are separated by commas automatically.